|
NCB Rail tank wagons Registered on TOPS - BR |
|
|
|---|
| Hi I Think this tank was photographed at Blaenavon and not Ebbw vale as described.The coke Ovens at BSC Ebbw Vale closed in 1972 and these tanks ceased to operate to Ebbw vale in mid 1971.Hope this info is of help.Phil |
| [#8817544] |
2009-03-28 19:25:10 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| As the caption says, this is Ebbw Junction, which is what I have known as the BR marshalling yard at the entrance to Newport Docks. |
|
| |
Milk tank wagons on British Railways |
|
|
|---|
| Do you know what the final five milk tank conversions were like and do you have any photos? These were MMB42866-70 and were larger 46t tanks using ex-Texaco Class A tanks. Do you know if any of the seventy odd 1981 conversions were used much after then and what happened to them? |
| [#8705521] |
2007-12-26 13:26:55 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Sorry, I don't have any photographs of these final wagons, I am not aware any of these 70 wagons were ever used, they just sat around the west country waiting for a call which I do not think ever came.
|
|
|
|---|
| Hello!
I do have photos of these (or rather 42866, 69 and 70) shortly before they were scrapped. Helpfully I haven't recorded the date but it must have been 87 or 88; many, if not all of them ended up in Vic Berrys in Leicester where I found them. Lettering and colour scheme identical to the smaller tanks (aside from the one 2 axle one I saw which was all blue). I also do not believe any were actually used.
Rolf |
|
|
|---|
| I photographed the whole modern milk tank fleet, numbered MMB42800 to MMB42870, except MMB42816, at Swindon on 13/3/1989 and should be able to scan the negatives onto a cd for anyone interested. |
|
| |
Milk tank wagons on British Railways |
|
|
|---|
| I like these photographs a lot. One of my customers sent them to me following the release of my own Dapol-produced plain black milk tanker.
However I would like to release another tanker later this year - probably the St Ivel tanker.
Can I have permission to use these photographs for Dapol to work on? |
|
|
|---|
| SR Milk Tank S4430. The "St Ivel" logo is not genuine for this vehicle. This wagon is preserved on the Bluebell Railway and was rescued by Martin Allen and Martin Skrzetuszewski, with assistance from St. Ivel, the logo being added as publicity prior to road transportation. The wagon is now fully restored in authentic "United Daries" Livery. |
|
|
|---|
| Hello Paul: I am looking for pic' of the 6-wheel Milk tank wagons used by West Park Dairy. They varied with a wood surround cradle, and a deflector shield over the top of the tank to increase a cooling air flow in transit. I am researching the numbering and GWR Brown livery - there were only five of them in the GWR 202* number series
Regards |
|
| |
Milk tank wagons on British Railways |
|
|
|---|
| Hi Paul,
Looks like the label got a bit churned up here :-) you sure it milk in there? :-))
Bob |
|
| |
BR Sand wagons |
| [#8595480] |
2007-01-05 18:39:41 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Bachmann 4mm model cat no. 37-354 |
|
| |
BR 21ton double door unfit minerals - 1950 design |
|
|
|---|
| Wonderfull photos. Please may I buy the whole set on CD / subscribe to receive updates? |
| [#8817545] |
2009-03-28 19:26:54 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This site has a simple means of requesting notification of new postings. Use the 'notify me' box |
|
| |
BR 21ton double door unfit minerals - 1950 design |
|
|
|---|
| Very useful pics - thanks. Used for weathering models. |
|
| |
BR 21ton double door vacuum brake minerals MDV - 1961 design |
| [#8699637] |
2007-11-29 11:38:17 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Spot the wagon-painter's deliberate mistake....Chivers Fineline are apparently releasing a kit of this type shortly.
Brian |
|
| |
Conflat A wagons on British Railways |
| [#8733556] |
2008-04-12 23:36:56 |
Left by STUART SHAWCROSS (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| HELLO PAUL,
I WOULD JUST LIKE TO EXPRESS MY APPRECIATION FOR ALL THE CONFLAT PHOTOS ON THIS SITE. MY LONG TERM PLAN IS TO TRY TO MODEL, IN 00, SOME OF STOCKPORT EDGELEY'S RAIL SYSTEM WHICH INCLUDED A SIGNIFICANT ARRANGEMENT OF YARD WITH LARGE OVERHEAD CRANE/TRANSPORTER FOR HANDLING THE CONFLAT DELIVERED CONTAINERS ONTO BR VEHICLES AND VICE VERSA. WHOLE TRAINS OF THE CONFLATS WERE RUN UP TO LONDON IN AN EVENING (NO DOUBT TO MISS THE DAYTIME PASSENGER TRAFFIC )
I THINK, BUT DON'T KNOW FOR CERTAIN, THAT THE BR VEHICLES WOULD HAVE INCLUDED SCAMMEL SCARABS AS I SEEM TO REMEMBER SEEING CONTAINERS ON THE BACKS OF SOME AS A CHILD IN THE 50's. PERHAPS YOU COULD THROW SOME LIGHT ON THIS. DON'T KNOW HOW STABLE THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN WITH THE THREE SUPPORT POINT BASE OF THE TRAILER.
I HAVE BEEN COLLECTING SOME MODELS OF CONFLATS FOR THE YARD (YET TO BE BUILT) MAINLY OF THE BD TYPE BUT HAVE A LONG WAY TO GO.
INFORMATION SUCH AS YOURS WITH GOOD CLOSEUPS SHOWING TURNBUCKLE DETAILS/LOCATIONS AND OTHER ASPECTS IS INVALUABLE FOR WHAT I WILL BE DOING.
IT'S ALSO VERY INTERESTING TO SEE THE OTHER LOADS WHICH THE CONFLATS CARRIED.
IF YOU HAVE OR KNOW OF ANY SOURCE OF PHOTOS / DRAWINGS ETC WHICH WOULD SHOW HOW THE CONTAINERS WERE LIFTED PERHAPS YOU COULD LET ME KNOW SOME TIME.
I ASSUME THAT THE UPPER CHAIN LINKS ATTACHED TO THE SLOPING SIDE STRAPPING, WERE ENGAGED WITH THE HOOKS ON FOUR SLING LEGS FROM A CENTRAL LIFTING HOOK ON THE CRANE IN THE CASE OF STOCKPORTS OVERHEAD CRANE BUT I DON'T KNOW IF THIS WAS THE UNIVERSAL METHOD.DO YOU KNOW OF ANY OTHER SITES WITH CONFLAT PHOTOS/ DETAILS ETC ?
ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO FIND SOME INFO ON THE BR MARKINGS ON THE CONTAINERS. i.e. DID THEY MARK THEM (CHALK, WHITEWASH OR ?) WITH DESTINATIONS AND CONTENTS OR DID THEY RELY SOLELY ON THE CONTAINER NUMBER CORRELATED TO CONTENTS/DESTINATION ON SOME FORM OF DOCUMENTS. PERHAPS THE INFO WAS TELEGRAPHED TO THE RECEIVING STATION(S) (LONG BEFORE WIDESPREAD USE OF COMPUTERS)
THANKS
REGARDS
STUART
|
| [#8733845] |
2008-04-13 21:55:30 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I think the Scarabs were a bit small to handle loaded B-type containers, which would have grossed about five tons (most Scarabs were rated at three tone, though a six-ton type was built in later years. Looking at the cover pictures of a couple of books suggests the following:-
British Railway wagons- their loads and loading- volume 1 ( Grant & Taylor) has a couple of overall views of South Lambeth in 1959. Containers are being loaded on flat trailers (some step-framed) by fork-lifts with attachment hooks. The tractor units visible seem to be of the long-bonneted types- either Austin Lodestars or Bedfords. The Scarabs visible are towing tilt-trailers. Quite a few containers are loaded in open wagons- a procedure which saved chaining down, and made the box very difficult to access for illicit reasons during its journey.
The 4mm Wagon- part 2 by Geoff Kent has some views of Aberdeen in the mid-60s. Again, no Scarabs shown with containers, there being some of the long-nosed tractor units visible again (including one in yellow). There's what looks like a non-BR 'LAD' cabbed rigid with a container next to the offices in the background. BR used tractor units with LAD cabs (both Leyland and Dodge types) in the very late 1950s into the 1970s to haul semi-trailers with containers etc. They also used Bedford TKs once they became available- early 1960s?
Brian |
| [#8733854] |
2008-04-13 22:24:20 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Some loading pictures at http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c43377.html and http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/search.php?txt=drikold&action=Go&t=p
|
|
|
|---|
| A comment regarding traditional containers. I have seen unloading pictures where the container is being lifted off by a Ransomes Rapier mobile crane. How did the slinger get on to the roof of the traditional container with the curved roof to put the hooks of the lifting chains into the eyes of the container? There were no ladders and, quite frequently, the Conflat was in a siding in the middle of a goods yard. Does anyone know? |
|
|
|---|
| I wonder if they used a shunter's pole?
Brian |
|
| |
BR 12ton Pipe Wagons - pre 1980 |
|
|
|---|
| Great - one at Toton - shows I'm modelling the right thing! Just need to find some SOV decals now... |
|
| |
BR 12ton Pipe Wagons - pre 1980 |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
Here's another request!
I've come across a photo of pipe wagon B740522 taken by you at Hastings on 31-07-77. This I have modelled. Next to it is ADS61095. This is some type of lowmac wagon, did you take a picture of it as well?
I'd like to see a shot of it some time............
All the best
Colin Parks PS did you receive my photo of a banana van body? |
|
| |
BR 12ton Pipe Wagons - pre 1980 |
| [#32937] |
2004-06-13 08:29:36 |
Left by Tony briddon (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Excellent shot of areas usually in shadow |
|
| |
LNER wagons - a selection on BR pre 1975 |
| [#8480285] |
2006-02-04 13:41:18 |
Left by roderick f. blow (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| thank you very much for including L.N.E.R. wagons.
i have been an l.n.e.r. man all of my life, and anything like this is most welcome.
yorklad45 |
|
| |
GWR wagons - a selection on BR from Nationalisation |
|
|
|---|
| Third corridor 'dreadnought' on 'american' 9ft bogies. These were 70ft long and were so-named because of their size. The name applied to the first of a revolutionary type of battleship at the time (1904). The 'american' refers to the compensating levers that were used. |
| [#8740337] |
2008-05-10 23:51:38 |
Left by Allen W. Jeffries (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| i am a beginner at modeling UK railroads. Your photos are very helpful. I appreciate all those who took the time and effort to record rail road related subjects.
Thank you
Allen Jeffries
aljeff@ mac.com |
|
| |
GWR open merchandise OWV ZGV |
|
|
|---|
| This is a Dia O39 L1493 (part) from circa 1946 telegraph code HIGH. I just thought this info might enhance the photo info. The later 6 plankers were telegraph code HYFIT. Thanks for all your good work. Howard |
|
| |
GWR Vans - includes specialist designs |
|
|
|---|
| Shuttered louvres have been replaced with bonnets but 'X' bracing at ends still retained instead of 'stayed ends' (two supports to middle uprights) |
|
| |
GWR open merchandise OWV ZGV |
|
|
|---|
| Diagram O20 1925 - 6, at least that is what my money is on. If so, vacuum brake has been removed, as has the sheet rail. Everything else points to this one though. No clue as to riginal number from departmental number however. |
|
| |
GWR Special wagons - Lowmac, Weltrol, Girdwag |
| [#8706648] |
2007-12-31 20:51:27 |
Left by Keith Northeast (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Hello Paul.
I'm a member of the 2mm Scale Association, and I've been looking at all your Lowmac photo's as I'm building a small train of Lowmac wagons. The pics are really great, (all too good to just select one from), and I've gotta say thanks for your efforts in putting this valuable research site together.
Thanks again, and have a Happy New Year! |
|
| |
GWR open merchandise OWV ZGV |
|
|
|---|
| This should be a Diagram O11 but most had self contained buffers. The number is not registered in the guide but is in the likely area. Not all numbers are known. The top side plank should look like the end top plank and probably smaller planks were used during the war. |
|
|
|---|
| I have reservations re Howard's suggestion that it should be O11; It depends on whether one takes the buffers (Rod vs s/c) or the V hanger positions as the determining factor for deciding which diagram a wagon belongs to. This photo appears to show V hangers offset from centre (O14) not central (O11). |
|
| |
GWR Vans - includes specialist designs |
| [#8867339] |
2009-10-17 23:41:06 |
Left by Alistair D Cahill (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| great site,i have been a wagonphile since about 1975,you may add my photos to your collection,the only payment i want is the pleasure and research assistance they may give
best regards, Alistair D Cahill |
|
| |
GWR wagons - a selection on BR from Nationalisation |
|
|
|---|
| Very minor point -Wagon numbered W84924 but
photo labeled W84294 if my eyes do not deceive me.
|
|
| |
UKF - Shellstar Bogie Fertiliser rail vans |
|
|
|---|
| I can only recall these with the sheet sides and S H E L L S T A R on the sheets! Nice wagons! |
|
| |
UKF - Shellstar Bogie Fertiliser rail vans |
| [#87649] |
2005-03-12 12:47:18 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| A Vote of 5.7 - what the 'ell do you people expect!!! The side and end are well lit, the livery all clear and in good condition. |
|
| |
BR Brake tenders |
|
|
|---|
| I made a mistake with the location of this, it is at Radyr! Date correct. |
|
| |
BR Brake tenders |
|
|
|---|
| A good photo Paul, not many views of these Tenders showing them in BR Green, even if this one is looking a bit faded. |
| [#8645645] |
2007-05-23 21:09:44 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Tim - I am not sure why you believe this is in BR Green, whereever the muck is scraped away blue shows through.
Regards
Paul |
|
| |
BR Brake tenders |
|
|
|---|
| Hi Paul , I have just been veiwing your brake tender photo and would like your advise on whether its a trick of the light or does it have a grey " roof " ? .
I thought they were all over green or blue,
All the best
graham harrison |
| [#4872] |
2003-07-26 23:57:01 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Dear Graham - I agree. I have had a look at the higher res. pictures. Most of them have the same body and roof colour but B964113 and most noticeably 964014 have much darker 'roofs' appears to be a grey - possibly executive grey and not black.
Regards
Paul Bartlett |
|
|
|---|
| Paul,
I have been looking for a decent colour picture of a diesel brake tender for illustration on our kit packing and have just come across this one. Would you mind if I used it? Full credit of course. Would you please let me know ASAP.
Regards,
Pete.
|
|
| |
Ex GWR Milk tanks |
|
|
|---|
| dear sir
which standard used for design of this tanks.
best regards
mehrdad
|
| [#8645647] |
2007-05-23 21:16:26 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Sorry I do not understand your question. All of the railway companies introduced milk tank wagons in the late 1920s through to the early 1930s. They had many similarities and some differences. This collection of GWR wagons shows some differences (although it is not possible to show the original introductions which were 4 wheeled, and then were quickly converted to 6 wheel. This other collection shows more variety from the other companies http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/show_collection.php?id=20075
Paul
York |
|
| |
BR Hot Pig Iron and Coil Wagons |
| [#8472495] |
2006-01-15 20:49:08 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| PIG IRON, you don't have an
identity for this wagon, it is B744647 - NVR collected it from this exact
spot a few years later
Regards
Brian Hallett
|
|
|
|---|
| Probably Northfleet rather than Northcliffe - it was stuck there at the end of that siding for years and years. I have a photo of it there in 1983, and it had been stuck there a while even then. |
| [#8752641] |
2008-06-27 17:51:27 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Correct.
|
|
| |
BR Covhop wagons |
|
|
|---|
| Paul
I have come across a small number of photos of trains comprising 'covhop' wagons south of leyland, near Preston.
I believe the traffic is - fulls to Corcickle from St Helens and empties to St Helens from Workington, Derwent, Moss Bay and Corkicle. The outward trains comprise 12 vehicles, the return as many as 25-30. I am trying to ascertain what the materials carried would be and the particular types of wagon, ie; whether fitted or unfitted.
The return journeys, at least in the late 1950's commenced with two seperate trains as far as Millom, where the trips were combined. A stop was then made at Lindal Iron Works before forwarding to Carnforth prior to the journey to St Helens via the Whelley loop around Wigan.
It seems there were numerous combinations of materials but that is where I start to get a little confused.
Any help to unravel would be appreciated
Regards
Greg Fox
|
|
| |
BR Bogie flat ex Warflat |
| [#41329] |
2004-08-05 00:38:37 |
Left by Brian Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I believe this was on of a varied group of wagons used to deliver ingot moulds from the BSC foundries at Landore and Dowlais to various steel works throughout the UK. I worked at Landore during a couple of vacations in the early 1970s, and remember Warflats, another type of ex-WD flat on six-wheel bogies (used for the biggest moulds for Ravenscraig), along with tipplers and other wagons for the smaller moulds. I'm told that the armour plate wagons were used for the Dowlais traffic, which might explain the presence of one at Workington.
Brian |
|
| |
KDB924203 BEV with HAP1040 crane |
| [#4131] |
2003-07-08 21:32:31 |
Left by Andrew Martin (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This wagon and crane are now to be found on the East Lancashire Railway. |
| [#4183] |
2003-07-09 22:44:26 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Thank you for adding this new information. |
|
| |
British Oxygen Co railway tanks |
|
|
|---|
| 40131 is the other locomotive,Earles siding-Ditton,BOC Tanks.
regards |
|
| |
Associated Octel tank wagons - international registered |
| [#6443] |
2003-09-06 21:13:11 |
Left by MarcS (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This Octel-tank-wagons should read 21 in place of the mentioned 23.
This is also quite clear from the rather large number on the end of the reservoir.
(I would be pleased when such large writing was used more often!)
Greetings MarcS |
| [#7979] |
2003-10-14 19:03:35 |
Left by David Ratcliffe (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Great site Paul. Interesting to see an Octel in Birkenhead. |
|
| |
AFP Containers on BR |
| [#6132] |
2003-08-28 21:48:29 |
Left by CHRIS (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Is the wagon one of the flats converted from BR CCTs? The only time I saw them in traffic was when carrying damaged SPAs at York. |
| [#6135] |
2003-08-28 22:28:35 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| No, as the caption says it was originally a Flat ED.
Paul |
|
| |
STS international registered Anhydrous ammonia tanks |
| [#6442] |
2003-09-06 21:05:26 |
Left by MarcS (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| It seems to me that the 33 70 0798 015 and 33 70 0798 016 ammonia tanks should read 21 ....
Then the control-figure is correct too.
Greetings MarcS |
|
| |
Mugatroyd-BPCM Bogie liquid chlorine T201 - 208 |
|
|
|---|
| Hi Paul. apart from the book you mentioned in your text about the murgatroyds bogie tanks, would you know where to find any pics of the tanks in their original livery when owned by murgatroyds ?
many thanks
darren |
|
| |
Prestwin diag 1/277 up close and dirty |
|
|
|---|
| I like this picture from the point of view of modelling. The detail of use and age is captured nicely in this picture and the date mentioned is useful as I am modelling this time. Cheers guy |
|
| |
Motorail wagons and coaches |
|
|
|---|
| Just about to build a rake of 10 car-flats for my layout. I am trying to locate pictures of the decking to ascertain the number of timbers used per unit and any other detail. Fabulous site..where would we be without it!! |
| [#8603030] |
2007-01-27 09:56:53 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| One of the Carflats was measured and drawn for Bartlett, P., Larkin, D., Mann, T., Silsbury, R., and Ward, A. (1985) An illustrated history of BR wagons, Volume 1 published by Oxford Publishing Company, 192 pages.
I was not involved with so unsure the flooring will have been measured. It is a 63ft 5in long version with about 107 planks which suggests they are about 6in wide allowing for a little spacing between each - perhaps 7in planed? This is narrower than usual, but photos do suggest the flooring is of narrower planking than usual.
Paul
|
|
| |
BR Ferry vans; diagram 1/227 of 1962 and conversions |
|
|
|---|
| Paul,
I think this must have been the BR Research van HSFV4. The suspension, flat roof and the doors, grilles and windows all match. See for example http://www.old-dalby.com/images/old_dalby_hscc.jpg
I had wondered what had happened to it.
The flat HSFV1 is still at the RTC.
Regards,
Paul |
|
| |
BR Bogie Bolster E and engineers conversions |
| [#41328] |
2004-08-05 00:25:08 |
Left by Brian Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Presumably Llandeilo Junction, Paul ? This would have been the swan-song for the Bolster Es working from Duport's(aka The Klondyke) usually to Great Bridge, as the plant closed shortly afterwards. The Bolster Es , together with a large number of twin-bolsters, were used because of tight clearances in the plant. A Bolster C was sent in error once, and demolished the weighbridge hut.. I hadn't realise that they'd been fitted with straps instead of chains in their later years. |
|
| |
SR Brake vans |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
Again this most useful of sites has come to the rescue. This time to help with the assembly of the Smallbrook Studios LSWR 10T Road van depicted here. |
|
| |
SR Railway wagons - general |
| [#103792] |
2005-05-04 16:01:06 |
Left by Ray Chorley (#1004022) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| On of the first batch of bogie hoppers built for the Southern Railway. Note door operating gear at one end only.
This wagon has had its solebar cracked, note patchs at both end over bogie. Chutes have been extended sometime to clear third rail when ballasting. |
|
| |
DRA81547 – 81556 Booth 0-8-0 crane |
|
|
|---|
| I am a profesional model maker specializing in the production of historica buildings such as the Wallace Monument, the Royal and Ancient Golf Clubhouse-St Andrews and others all to a scale of 1/200.
However my 'busmans holiday' and pasion is model trains and the information contained in your gallery is invaluable to replicate the railway equipment.
Possibly you could advise the model railway publishing companies to promote your web site since I only accidentally discovered by chance.
Thank and best regards William |
|
| |
DRA81547 – 81556 Booth 0-8-0 crane |
| [#8734552] |
2008-04-16 13:45:52 |
Left by Edso Sluijsmans (NL) (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I'm looking for more info about this type of crane. If you would like to share anything, thank you very much |
|
| |
FPA and Russell Containers on BR |
| [#8798404] |
2009-01-11 21:51:09 |
Left by barry nicholson (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This view is exactly as I remember them when the Speedlink coal services from Yorkshire to Scotland were first introduced. Happy days indeed! |
|
| |
Rudd and Clam ballast/spoil wagons on BR |
|
|
|---|
| Sir
How long over the body is a RUDD
Thank you
Graham |
|
| |
Ravenscraig, internal wagons, locos, scenes |
|
|
|---|
| IS THIS THE SAME TYPE OF WAGON THAT WAS SEEN ON THE LEAMSIDE LINE CROSSING THE VICTORIA VIADUCT AROUND 1969 |
| [#8714318] |
2008-01-30 23:35:39 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| It's the same general type of wagon, but the ones used on the Redcar - Consett flow were quite a bit smaller. Some of these ones on internal flows (you still see them within the Redcar-Lackenby site and at Scunthorpe) gross out at 500t+- quite scary when you see the speed at which they move round the site. At least one deraile dat Teeside back in the 1980s, and had to be cut up on site when it had cooled down. The ones that travelled on BR tracks were 'only' a couple of hundred tonnes fully laden. Most of the ones in the UK were built by a British Steel subsiduary called Distington Engineering at Workington. |
|
|
|---|
| This is the most unusual train load I have ever seen. Unusual, exciting, beautiful. |
|
| |
Ravenscraig, internal wagons, locos, scenes |
|
|
|---|
| why is it called an ingot car?
It was used to take slag from the blast furnace to CCS to make foamed slag. |
|
| |
Ravenscraig, internal wagons, locos, scenes |
|
|
|---|
| This is a sight which takes me back 30 years,I can remember when Consett Steel mill was still in production.These "Torpedoes" would be hauled along the Durham coast from Hartlepol/Redcar/to
Conset.The consist was a class thirty seven with a air piped brake van at each end two barrier trucks
and a Torpedo in the middle.The heat these things
gave off was amazing,I remember when it was raining and the hiss of the Water as it vapourised on
the outside of the Torpedo,good days. |
|
| |
Tyne & Wear Metro engineers wagons |
|
|
|---|
| Does anyone know of these hopper wagons are still retained by Tyne and Wear Metro? |
|
| |
Albright and Wilson Phosphoric acid tanks |
| [#16909] |
2004-02-19 17:08:02 |
Left by bob hodson (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| ininteresting rintere |
|
| |
BR 24 1/2 ton coal hoppers |
| [#8869665] |
2009-10-27 10:26:53 |
Left by David Monk-Steel (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This vehicle B335606 was used to test the High Capacity Coal Wagon discharge gear at Richborough on 30th October 1962. Converted to that form at Ashford and apparently converted back afterwards. (ref. "Milk Churns to Merry-go-Round" by R.T. Munns, page 155) |
|
| |
GWR and BR Passenger Fruit D |
|
|
|---|
| Hi Paul
I see that this wagon has the number '3' painted on it and one of your other Fruit D's at Reading has a number '5', seemingly some local numbering arrangement. I have a picture of a Fruit D at this location numbered '2' which I think is the next wagon down in this rake but it has no BR number visible on it just TDB it does have an IU plate fitted though. Do you have any more numbers for the vehicles that were in this rake so I might identify number '2' ?
Regards
Andy |
| [#8589128] |
2006-12-16 14:40:37 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Andy - that is an interesting observation. Unfortunately I have had a look at my note book for that day and appear to have only recorded the two Fruit Ds that are already in this collection and that you mention. I suspect they were very tight in and the others were not photographable. I expect I was returning home from the West Country and will have been in a hurry to get around and out, so would not record what I did not photograph. Have you looked at the other Fruit D I photographed earlier at Reading - has distinctive lettering etc so you may be able to identify. http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p3719713.html
Regards, keep in touch.
Paul |
|
| |
BR Boplate as Conflat ISO for Coil |
| [#88692] |
2005-03-15 12:26:35 |
Left by Brian Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Whilst all these wagons seem to have lost their curb-rails, David Monk-Steel and myself found another lot in the Middlesborough area about a year later which retained them (though most, if not all, had lost their floors). These were used for salt/potash containers from Boulby, and had gaps in the curb-rail to let the forklift tines pass under the containers. Diagrams were FE001H/K for the boplate-derived ones and FE002B for one derived from a Boflat.
Are the containers in your photos the ex-Freightliner 'Lancashire Flats'?
Brian |
|
| |
BR Standard van with plywood door |
|
|
|---|
| Martin Allen wrote: When I worked for BR as a civil engineer, we called the BR standard van "Tadpoles" when they were transfered to the Engineers fleet. I have a photo in my collection of one van so branded, but was this a particularly common "Fishkind" usage throughout BR? I have never read about this in the various wagon books. |
|
| |
LNER Tube wagons |
| [#8584670] |
2006-12-04 20:14:18 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| There has been a long discussion on one of the groups about the content of this wagon. I'll admit I had dismissed them as buoys, but now see they may not have been. If any one does come up with an answer please post on here. |
|
| |
LMS Haddock - Sleeper wagon |
|
|
|---|
| dear paul im new to this hi tec stuff so bear with me just found your photos of b.r. wagons and have been moved to write and thank you for a fabulous collection. i know they are going to be very use full to me as i am a model wagon nut. i hope it dosnt take you as long to read this as it took me to write it once again many thanks D. |
|
| |
OCA, OTA, Bass and Seahorse |
|
|
|---|
| Am I correct in assuming that this was the first ex. OCA converted to OTA? The date fits with my perception that these conversions just pre-dated the 1987 'Hurricane' and were not in fact built because of the 'windfall [ugh! I'm getting senile!] in the South of England but were intended for Scottish use, perhaps to replace UUV wagons which were by then very long in the tooth. |
| [#8732499] |
2008-04-08 22:46:57 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| It's a fairly early one, but the very first ones had lower, square shouldered ends, about twice the height of the original OCA end.
I think they were converted at Cathays, and were intended to give a higher capacity for bulky timber than the OBAs that had previously been used. This would have been on Speedlink flows to places like Welshpool, not on the Corpach flow.
Brian |
| [#8732634] |
2008-04-09 12:21:52 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I don't understand Dave's comment. There is a very similar conversion of an OCA at
http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p7240512.html
which is rebuilt about 18 months earlier and photographed in early 1986 when they were working in the West Country. I thought the UUVs went much earlier - discussed on BR Wagon research group very recently.
Paul |
|
|
|---|
| Yes, I'm certainly getting senile. What with the 'day job' of signaller at Clapham Junction and trying a one-man-exercise of photographinc as many colour lights signals as I can before I retire in 2011, my brain is getting fogged. Also, I haven't thus far got involved with Email debates. The UUV's did, of course, go much earlier ; I photographed a lot of them being cut up at Hoo Junction in early 1981. I didn't photograph any OCA or VDA / OTA conversions until 25/10/1988. This was when I started my last major countrywide trawl for wagons, which I completed in 1992. The mid-1980's were obviously a bit hazy for me and I obviously missed the OTA inception. |
|
|
|---|
| Would love to know about those pictures of the UUV's. Could I possibly have contact details, -expenses paid of course.
Thanks.
-presently trying to build a rake of the UUV wagons (Timber Ps) |
|
| |
OCA, OTA, Bass and Seahorse |
|
|
|---|
| What livery is this? Very weird |
|
| |
French registered Curtain sided van IUA |
| [#8796209] |
2009-01-01 11:40:22 |
Left by Barry Nicholson (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I am particularly interested in this series of curtain sided ferryvans. The Transfesa owned batch, 4739 020-024, were a common sight here in the North East when I was first interested in air braked wagons in 1983, though I only managed to take one colour view, most of my thousands of wagon pictures being in B&W. The presence of a set of excellent colour views by yourself is particularly useful as I am building a 2mm/ft model of one of this batch. and your pictures will be very useful for this project as the Cargowaggon batch were to the same diagram. IUE545.
I am very grateful to you for allowing your photos to be viewed on the Internet. Their being in colour helps enormously with appearance and augments my limited colour collection. Man thanks.
All the best.
Barry |
|
|
|---|
| You must have been hanging around the same places as me in 1983, Barry! Some of the Transfesa wagons were lettered 'Transferry', I recollect- they used to be used for aluminium ingot traffic at Tyneside Central Freight Depot. The main difference between the various builds seems to be the location of the various data panels fitted to the underframe.
Brian |
|
| |
Procor Molasses tanks - ex Caustic Soda |
|
|
|---|
| Good to have both sides for the underframe details, and well exposed/photographed for modelling purposes.
alan @ york |
|
| |
Procor Molasses tanks - ex Caustic Soda |
|
|
|---|
| An excellent photo for inspiration. A must to be modelled, with lovely weathering.
alan @ york |
|
| |
German Cargowaggon - Eva Bogie flat |
|
|
|---|
| Hallo do you know where I can obtain the dimentions of the German 1939 to 45 , 80 ton flat waggon used for tranporting Tger tanks and other
military eqipment |
| [#8607725] |
2007-02-09 20:29:24 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
|
I don't know about drawings, but you might find the wagon you're looking for her:-http://www.scalelink.co.uk/acatalog/Armoured_Train_Range___Scale_1_76.html
Brian |
|
| |
LMS brake vans - pre Stanier standard |
|
|
|---|
| I'm in the process of building several PECO N Gauge kits of the LMS Brake van in the BR era so found the photo particularly useful for details of the lettering and numbering
Thanks |
|
| |
LMS Stanier Brake van |
| [#59676] |
2004-11-01 13:58:07 |
Left by Howard Thomas (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| These photos have been very useful - thanks Paul! |
|
| |
LMS Stanier Brake van |
|
|
|---|
| This one looks pretty clean, but what colour is it painted ? |
|
|
|---|
| Who knows, black? Very dark olive green? |
|
| |
LMS Stanier Brake van |
|
|
|---|
| Excellent photo for modelling - it has solved more than a couple of problems for me! |
|
|
|---|
| Do you have a larger version of this picture available on line?, as it is rather small to see all the detail.
I am currently modelling a slaters kit and would like to see some of the original vans details.
Regards |
|
| |
LMS Stanier Brake van |
|
|
|---|
| Paul
Re you great photo of the ex LMS brake van DM732540 that Hornby are to produce this year are you able to give any details as to its history.
Is it some sort of Barrier Vehicle or was it used for a specific duty, any details incl the year of photo would be gratefully received
Many thanks
Ian Taylor |
| [#8717210] |
2008-02-11 18:54:41 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Err. All of my photographs have the date and place of photography on them.
No, sorry I don't know anything about the use, and it didn't appear at Northampton PAD again - somewhere I visited fairly regularly for a few years in the early and mid 1980s. |
|
| |
LMS Stanier Brake van |
|
|
|---|
| hello paul,just looked at your lms/br brake van photos,they will be a great help to me as i have just purchased an 0 scale model of that wagon.many thanks, howard |
|
| |
ODA Air braked Pipe wagons |
|
|
|---|
| Interesting load in these two. Given that Hoo Junction is the location, and a place for much military traffic over the 25 years I went there, and that there was a R. E. school at Chattenden, less than five miles away, is the load portable military roadway or runway? |
|
| |
ODA Air braked Pipe wagons |
|
|
|---|
| This appears to have been the only ODA painted in SECTOR livery ; did anybody record any others? If anyone wants them, I can supply the original B-prefixed numbers for this class. |
|
| |
SUKO 67000- 59 Shell oil Class A tank wagons |
|
|
|---|
| The location of this photo is actually Layerthorpe Station, Derwent Valley Railway, which was adjacant to Foss Islands Goods Station |
|
| |
BR Ferry open diag 1/055 and conversions |
|
|
|---|
| Thanks for an excellent site! I'd like to ask a question if i may, i'm an N gauge modeller and have a few Peco wagon kits to build, one of them according to Peco is a 15ft Tarpaulin which looks suspiciously like an 8 plank BR Ferry open, diag. 1/055! In fact it's exactly the same as the ones in your photo's, except it's got a fold down bar with it for the tarpaulin, in your experience do you know if they were ever fitted for tarpaulin covers? Thank you and keep up the good work! |
| [#8531416] |
2006-06-12 23:19:17 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Jim - yes, when they were new they had a tarpulin bar. The drawing and official photograph in Bartlett et al shows this. |
|
| |
BR Ferry open diag 1/055 and conversions |
| [#61501] |
2004-11-11 16:44:28 |
Left by Brian Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Dolomite traffic from Ferryhill to Montrose/elsewhere in Eastern Scotland- I wonder how much of the load actually got there ? This traffic used to see a really mixed bag of wagons- David Monk-Steel and I passed through Ferryhill in the late 1980s and, apart from these wagons, found both types of Procor PMAs and one of the Railease POAs that were supposedly only for scrap traffic. The Thompson bogie wagons were also present, IIRC.
Brian |
|
| |
Stewarts Lane Breakdown crane & stock |
|
|
|---|
| I have seen photo of Stewarts Lane Breakdown of water tank
Why Stewarts Lane Breakdown need water for what when derail or crash
I think you may know about that water tank wagon
Regards
Andrew |
|
|
|---|
| The water would have been for the steam-powered breakdown crane (with possibly some for the tea-urn in the mess van..)
Brian |
|
| |
Stewarts Lane Breakdown crane & stock |
|
|
|---|
| This is a first rate site. I am interseted because I have just come into possession of the original Hornby Duble breakdown crane. As I know little about the consistancy of a real breakdown train, if you have a little more information as to what went into a rake making up a proper set, i.e. types of vehicles that were used in a typical set, also the actual red colour and any wagon numbers. Preferably for an east coast Many thanks in anticipation, failing any actual info. can you point me towards a contact where i can get thios info.
best regards
Timk Pratt |
|
| |
Foster Yeoman PR17801 - 36 bogie Aluminium aggregate |
|
|
|---|
| With todays health and safety i cannot believe this scene happening at an open today today. |
|
| |
BR Cov AB Ventilated vans 200100 - 200119 |
|
|
|---|
| Paul - excellent website. I have a question: I noticed your cartic pictures at Rover, Longbridge. Do you have any other pictures of Longbridge-related traffic (or for that matter, the factory generally)?
Cheers, David |
|
|
|---|
| Paul - excellent website. I have a question: I noticed your cartic pictures at Rover, Longbridge. Do you have any other pictures of Longbridge-related traffic (or for that matter, the factory generally)?
Cheers, David |
|
| |
Civil Engineers steam cranes on BR |
|
|
|---|
| Rating of most photos (engineers cranes) 6-9/10
Rating of value of what you do- the site - the content -the effort 9000/100.
World unique !
Grest Stuff
Bruce Ward
Secretary,
World Historical Steam Society
Inc in London
Sydney Aust Branch |
|
| |
BR Brake tenders |
|
|
|---|
| very useful photos - thanks |
|
| |
GWR / WR Siphon G's |
| [#8775499] |
2008-10-03 09:59:27 |
Left by Adrian Thompson (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| the vehicle survives at the Swindon and Cricklade Railway |
|
| |
GWR / WR Siphon G's |
| [#73955] |
2005-01-11 16:59:19 |
Left by brian h Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Paul,
Am I correct in thinking that this van has a solitary window on this side ? Do you know if the other side also had one ? I didn't notice any evidence of windows in any of the other shots of Newspaper Van conversions. Also, is that an ETH jumper on the headstock in the foreground ?
Brian |
|
|
|---|
| Martin Allen wrote: Some vans dedicated to newspaper traffic had a toilet fitted at one end. These vans were manned by a crew of "newspaper wrappers", who were responsible for tying up the bundles, labelling and throwing them out at the appropriate station stops en route. Since they were thus "passenger rated", these vehicles should strictly speaking have internal emergency train brake communication chains, so it's an interesting point if they were so fitted or not. The brake indicator "butterflys" (painted red), should therefore be visible at the van ends at roof eaves height, if this was the case. Travelling Post Office Stowage Tenders certainly were thus fitted in similar circumstances. |
| [#8596710] |
2007-01-08 19:20:31 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The vans fitted with toilets were BR GUVs, rebuilt with 'bow' ends, corridor connections, and ETH. They also received B4 bogies, I believe. These replaced the Siphons in about 1977/8, I (vaguely) recollect. Prior to that, 'amenities' were provide by a BR BSK, which also provided somewhere for the staff to travel on the way up to London. It also provided a means of returning from London if you'd missed the last advertised train....My first land-lady's son was a packer on the London-Bristol trains- he used to go 'up' at about 19:30, returning the following morning at about 04:00.
I'm afraid I can't remember if the stock had passenger alarms- perhaps they had some sort of derogation to avoid having to fit them?
Brian |
|
| |
GWR / WR Siphon G's |
| [#8803476] |
2009-01-29 20:50:25 |
Left by charles knuchel (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Dear Paul, I have a very good friend living on the IOM. For X-mas he has sent to me a calender issued by the RAILWAY Magazine. On the frontpage one can see a beautifully restored ex-GW "Syphon G" van. I wonder why the term "syphon" is used in connection with a goods van for mîlk transportation? I thought that a syphon has something to do with sewage...
Certainly you know everything about the Syphon-G van. I would be very pleased if I could get a short explanation from you. Thank you so much. Kindest regards Charles |
| [#8803501] |
2009-01-29 21:39:34 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Charles - even the HMRS book on Siphons does not give any explanation of the name. I doubt any is known, although it is possible John Lewis would be able to help. These are simply code names used for the telegraph communication. |
|
| |
Enpart rolling stock - WR & BR |
|
|
|---|
| This is another great picture for those who do not live in the UK but model UK railways. I use these vans as barrier vans, IE one end has Hornby horn hook coupler and the other end has Kaydees for rolling stock to coaching stock when the loco only has horn hook couplings. It has been hard to get quality pictures for modelling purposes of this van in BR blue period since I am modelling 78 to 85. Thanks for the work and keep it up, this is a very good site. |
|
| |
COV CD - VCA air brake vans, includes departmental use |
|
|
|---|
| I have a shot of the other side of this van at Harlow, 20/2/1989, if anyone needs one |
|
| |
BR Bogie Bolster C - Unfitted |
| [#8547942] |
2006-08-06 07:09:57 |
Left by Mr. S Daniels (#1132089) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Hi Paul,
Do you have any photo's or details of the 2 BCA conversions from Bogie Bolster C's?
I'm hoping to build a model but can't find a pic of them anywhere. In particular I'm looking for details of bogie type fitted, and type of handbrake fitted.
regards,
Stuart
|
|
| |
BR 21t hoppers - rebodied, resprung, renumbered HTO & HTV - 25ton |
| [#89444] |
2005-03-17 20:18:18 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| BR were still rebodying 21t hoppers when I started my railway
service as a wagon oiler in June 1977. As originally built the BR build 21t
hoppers were fitted with either 7 plate or 8 plate side bearing springs - I
changed enough when I became a repairer. The original rebodies retained
these. The renumbered wagons to my knowledge all had 10 plate side bearing
springs fitted at rebody - this also entailed repositioning of the spring
shoes. Carrying capacity at the same time was upped to 25.5 tonnes. Some of
your photos show this carrying capacity while others show it having been
changed back to 21.5 tonnes. Some wagons though never received this capacity
change.
Unfortunately I do not know of the background to the spring change or why
the wagons remained branded HTV / HTO when technically due to higher
capacity and different springs they were not. Of note is that I have only
ever encountered Topes, Rudds and Clams with the original suspension
arrangement, the resprung wagons seem to have been left out of those
programmes.
|
|
| |
BR 21t hoppers - rebodied, resprung, renumbered HTO & HTV - 25ton |
| [#89459] |
2005-03-17 21:26:54 |
Left by brian h Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This one didn't last long after re-bodying, did it- unless my maths is seriously wrong, then it only managed four years.
Brian |
|
| |
BR 13ton small hoppers |
| [#89931] |
2005-03-19 23:27:51 |
Left by Brian Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I like the Karrier Bantam in the line-up here- fond memories of riding in my dad's one (tipper variety) in the 1960s |
|
| |
Grain wagons on BR |
| [#120717] |
2005-06-13 18:51:29 |
Left by Ian Fleming (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I am very intrigued by BRT7616. As a Maltsters wagon, is the base livery, under the bauxite patching, an extremely weathered original yellow? |
|
| |
Grain wagons on BR |
|
|
|---|
| This is the first time I have used your site and I have to say its an excellent source of reference. I am currently making an LNER grain wagon, from the drawing/picture and limited instruction I was unable to make out the location and design of the grab / hand rails. From the photo's in your collection it was quite clear. Thanks for a great web site. |
|
| |
BR 16t Mineral welded diag 1/108 & 117 unfitted MCO ZHO ZYO |
|
|
|---|
| Gents, Does anyone know if there are still some industrial sites in the UK where there might be surviving 16 ton Mineral Wagons? I am looking for at least two examples for preservation. They will be non-runners for display purposes only, so overall condition is not too critical. Thanks in anticipation. |
|
| |
BR 16t Mineral Clasp vacuum brake MCV ZHV ZYV |
| [#8620386] |
2007-03-12 13:12:01 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This actual wagon is preserved on the GCR, though currently out of traffic, masquerading as B279714 and painted grey. It would be nice to restore it to this livery. I especially like the bauxite solebar! |
| [#8800732] |
2009-01-20 11:04:50 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| See also comment against http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p42185952.html |
|
| |
LNER Dolphin rail, ballast and sleeper wagon |
|
|
|---|
| Hi,
Rushden Historical Transport Society have one such vehicle as this at their railway at Rushden in Northamptonshire. It was purchased from Bridge St a few years ago. Could it possibly be this one.
Very useful reference collection for information. |
|
| |
BSW & BSR Bogie bolster D Timber wagons |
|
|
|---|
| Thanks Paul, an excellent set.
Since seeing some at Crianlarich, I've made some, but life is now easier with the Cambrian BDA kit.
Now to buils more... |
|
| |
Fisons Ammonia tanks, Chas Roberts 1958 |
| [#116273] |
2005-06-03 09:34:08 |
Left by Brian Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| They seem to have stopped cleaning these tanks after I left the area in 1977- they never used to be this dirty. The loading point was next to St Andrew's Road station, where I used to get the train in 1976/7- the inevitable ammonia spillage was good for clearing hangovers in the mornings.....I believe the site is now part of the coal-handling plant.
Brian |
|
| |
BR Brake van diag 1/504 |
| [#125703] |
2005-06-29 18:05:39 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This van would have been used on the Calvert-Lawrence Hill block trains for London Brick- the trains were rakes of Pipe VBs (SOV). Lawrence Hill was a thriving little yard at the time, with bulk and bagged cement from Aberthaw, as well as scrap and Blue Circle traffic for the Avonside branch. It used to merit its own 03 shunter duty when I lived nearby in the mid-1970s
Brian |
|
| |
BR Brake van diag 1/507 |
|
|
|---|
| Hey me and my mate James jones have recenley just borought this van could you tell what this livery stood for. thanks tom vist my site for more pics off this Brake Van www.tom-hunns.fotopic.net |
| [#8705524] |
2007-12-26 13:31:03 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| BR brake vans have been written up by Eric Gent in 'BR Brakevans and ballast ploughs' pub. by HMRS 1999. This has this van being one of the many equipped with air pipe and gauge in 1966-7. As this explains, although from 1970 brake vans were not commonly needed for freight trains, they were still required where the guard had to be at the back of the train - such as trains of toxic gas, nuclear fuel, explosives and MGR trains which had to reverse. As this one does not appear to have had narrow footboards it is unlikely it was for MGR. If an ordinary speedlink, steel carrying train etc had to reverse they also would have had a van, with standard footboards - as with any a single cab locomotive.
I cannot see in the book what the van was doing in South Wales, by 1989 it was assigned to refuse service from Barking to Stewartby |
|
| |
BR Brake van diag 1/507 |
| [#8473975] |
2006-01-19 19:49:26 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This van has been purchased for preservation and an excellent series of detail photographs - inside, outside and underneath are at:
http://www.tom-hunns.fotopic.net/c828306.html |
|
| |
BR Brake van diag 1/507 |
|
|
|---|
| BR brake van B954528 although lettered to work with air braked trains does not appear to have air pipes. Is fitted with vacuum pipe though. |
|
| |
BR 25.5T iron ore hopper diag 1/163 HJO HJV |
|
|
|---|
| Does anyone know which of these Iron Ore wagons were reclassified for Limestone traffic? In particular, examples to Diagram 1/161 and 1/166 seem to be chosen, but was there a pattern to the logic? |
|
| |
GWR vans convert Tool, mess, sleep Pooley etc. |
|
|
|---|
| This mess van was converted from 56769. Purchased from Radyr and moved to West Somerset Railway in Feb 1990. Seriously damaged by fire in a vandal attack at Bishops Lydeard in 2002. |
|
| |
BSSC bogie Iron ore tippler PTA JTA Immingham |
|
|
|---|
| Nice photograph in a excellent website, did you notice the rarity poking out from behind. It is one of the Tioxide wagon fleet. They ran only between Immingham docks and Grimsby carrying Illmenite (used to make white pigment) They occured in two varieties yellow and red tops, depending on their size and origin. I think this was the last vacumed braked freight service in the UK, now sadly gone. Another red top can be spotted in BSSC 26099 photo. Can supply some phtos if you want? |
| [#8760549] |
2008-07-29 18:25:54 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Dear Iain
Thanks, I have quite a lot of photographs of the Ti-oxide fleet. To clarify, they were the last NON continous braked fleet operating on BR. |
|
| |
Tiphook rail bogie box, international registered |
| [#8400774] |
2005-08-29 11:53:43 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Nice to see some photos of these from the days when you could identify the colour scheme. Apart from a small number that received Tiphook dark blue with a yellow ‘Plimsoll line’, the ones that are still to be seen are still in (very rusty) grey, albeit with the Tiphook markings painted out. These days, they’re generally found on engineers’ trains.
They were built as part of Tiphook’s attempt to gain business in the ‘spot hire’ market, along with the hooded flats, container flats and various tank wagons, and used a more-or-less standard Euroean bogie open design, type Eaos. The ones at Hoo were used for aggregate traffic carrying imported granite from Glensanda, which was used both in the Channel Tunnel (forwarded to Sevington) and as ballast on the upgrading of the various routes running towards the Tunnel. This latter would be held at Tonbridge West yard during the week until required for possessions.
Three wagons were fitted with some sort of semi-permanent cover, and were used to carry ‘waste’ from the zinc smelter at Avonmouth to somewhere in Belgium where it was further processed to remove the lead in it. This had ceased by the time the Tunnel opened, and now ISC Avonmouth is history as well.
This note was received from Brian Williams. Others are known to have worked to Middlesborough in the mid 1990s.
|
|
| |
Mark 1 coaches |
|
|
|---|
| cool shot, man. Tho' what does the destination board say??? |
| [#8483836] |
2006-02-09 21:39:39 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The first word is, I think LONDON, the others are definately MARGATE BROADSTAIRS RAMSGATE |
|
| |
Wagon details - PO mineral |
|
|
|---|
| A really interesting photo for a railway modeller. Look at the thickness of the pushrods, and note the metal end stanchions. If you are interested in this type of detail, look at Chris Croft's articles in MRJ issues 13-16 (around that time). |
|
| |
BBA , BXA and BWA steel carriers |
|
|
|---|
| Interesting script/font used for the number. Also the cleanest looking BBA that I've ever seen |
| [#8821860] |
2009-04-13 09:52:05 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Arun, they are all clean on the day they are repained.... It just does not last long!
Paul |
|
| |
On track plant, large cranes etc. upto 1980 |
|
|
|---|
| Nice to see Donny's crane again. |
|
| |
On track plant, large cranes etc. upto 1980 |
|
|
|---|
| excellent pic of a well kept and look after heavy breakdown crane maybe today owners of the can learn something from it |
|
| |
Transfesa Spanish 4 wheel fruit vans of 1984 |
| [#8420158] |
2005-10-04 19:58:49 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Still doing the rounds, with quite a few currently working from Germany to Ridham Dock, loaded with plasterboard. Whether they've been recently refurbished, I'm not sure, but they seem to be a lot shinier even now than most other metal-bodied vans. They have also seen quite a lot of use on mainland Europe, carrying vehicle components between Iberia and Germany.
Brian |
|
| |
LMS 3 plank medium open |
| [#8428144] |
2005-10-14 00:20:20 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Rock armour destined for the sea wall between Llanelli and Burry Port- I used to wonder how they'd got the boulders there, as I sat on them and watched trains pass in the late 1960s/early 1970s.
Brian |
| [#8705522] |
2007-12-26 13:28:37 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Brian
Thanks for this, I must admit I was surprised to find this photo with this load, as these wagons were all in departmental use from the later 60s onwards - if not earlier. Plate wagons were more usually used for such loads. But as it was taken in 1982 I am not so sure it was the ones you sat on a decade earlier. But I take your point
|
| [#8706793] |
2008-01-01 15:51:37 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The rock armour would have been classed as departmental traffic, as the sea-wall was maintained by the DCE. Amongst the smaller items used as infill between the bigger boulders were large numbers of two-block concrete sleepers, recovered from WW2 temporary installations. Had the wall been breached, high tides would probably have flooded as far as my parents' house, half-a-mile inland.
I remember seeing rock-armour coming down the branch from Caldon Quarry when I lived in Staffordshire- it was carried on SPVs, and was destined for Angerstein Wharf for use on the Thames Barrier.
Brian |
|
| |
LMS 3 plank medium open |
|
|
|---|
| what is the coaching stock behind the wagon ?
Is it Blue Pullman stock or some other kind of Pullman ? |
| [#8714648] |
2008-02-01 13:12:32 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| These are Mark II Pullmans, introduced 1966 (for the WCML). Photographs published in Model Rail June 2003 pp 30 – 32. M585 and lettering of M541
Paul |
|
| |
LMS 3 plank medium open |
| [#8472496] |
2006-01-15 20:50:56 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| preserved at the NVR:
MEDFIT M470944
Regards
Brian Hallett
http://www.tpo.org.uk
http://www.nvr.org.uk
|
|
| |
BR Vanwides - vacuum brake |
|
|
|---|
| Thanks Paul - really useful photo (and collection) and ideal for applying decals and weathering. I regularly use your site for this purpose!
PS - don't suppose you know the difference between VMV and VWV do you? Books suggest it was just down to BR idiosyncracy, but you might have more insight. |
| [#8705517] |
2007-12-26 12:46:38 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| TOPS coding was for computers and BR appears to have had little interest in them as an application to the wagons themselves - there are numerous mistakes to be seen throughout this collection. They also changed with time!
According to the fifth edition of the TOPS code book of October 1978:
VW is for "van with 9ft. sliding door 12t" (ie a vanwide but does not say so!)
VM is "Vanwide, plain bearings M.O.D. 12t (so allocated to MOD but not owned by them - hazard diamonds and gasmask on stickers indicate this usage)
VE is "Vanwide with roller bearings 12t"
So, some scope for mistakes in these, although most of this collection looks correct.
Paul
|
|
| |
DR82201 = DB901202 YXW Viaduct inspection unit |
|
|
|---|
| Is this wagon still a "going concern"? If so, who owns it now and where is it normally based? |
| [#8705518] |
2007-12-26 12:59:08 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| From http://www.ontrackplant.com/
Scrapped - Jul 1997 @ Crewe Gresty Road
|
|
| |
SR Brake vans |
|
|
|---|
| Classic Paul - I remember actually seeing this vehicle at Woking around this time, parked up in the bay platform 5. Always wished I had got a shot of it and always meant to ask if someone did. IIRC the script in the middle of the solebar reads "Built 1929" Is it actually a cast plate on which this has been highlighted with paint?
Tanya J |
| [#8815626] |
2009-03-20 10:24:33 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Tanya
The date is simply painted onto the solebar. The original plate remains nearer to the left-hand end of the solebar but has only S.R. above 55532 and LANCING below.
Regards
Paul |
|
| |
BR Standard Palvan - diag. 1/211 |
| [#8472499] |
2006-01-15 20:52:19 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| preserved at the NVR:
PALVAN B781768
Regards
Brian Hallett
http://www.tpo.org.uk
http://www.nvr.org.uk
|
|
| |
BR Standard Palvan - diag. 1/211 |
|
|
|---|
| xxxxx is Batchelor's siding, I believe, which was on the up side about a mile out of Ashford on the Canterbury line. The siding went in the 1970s, I believe, but the gated access was visible until fairly recently.
Brian |
|
| |
BR Standard Palvan - diag. 1/211 |
|
|
|---|
| A lovely pic of the brake rigging for those elusive details. |
|
| |
BR Standard Palvan - diag. 1/211 |
| [#8472449] |
2006-01-15 17:54:52 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Brian Hallet of the Nene Valley Railway reports that this van is preserved by them. |
|
| |
LNER Brake vans; GER, NER |
| [#8796203] |
2009-01-01 10:47:27 |
Left by Peter Tatlow (#1241486) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| As before, if this has trussing to the underframe, it is to diagram 158. |
|
| |
LNER Brake vans; GER, NER |
|
|
|---|
| DE187774 was donated to the North York Moors Railway in 1995. I bought it in 2004 and it is now undergoing restoration at Grosmont. Livery when complete will be similar to the picture. |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
I enjoy your site and I am on your notification list which I greatly appreciate.
Your currnent blocks of photos of containers, early BR, show the same group of 3 photos only !
I am also surprised at how long lived the xLNER Brake Vans proved to be as i would have expected a combination of harsh traffic conditions and displacement of Goods Guards would have seen them all long gone, especially as Preserved Railways have naturally concentrated on locomotives and passenger carriages.
Well done, Best wishes and Regards,
Philip G Miller |
| [#8575841] |
2006-10-29 13:25:03 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| As it says there is an 'intention'. I was asked for the Drikolds and had so few they do not deserve a collection of their own. However most of my early container stuff is prints and my scanner does not pick up 95% of the time, something to do with Microsoft XP - I managed a scan yesterday of one print and then it would not find it again!
The withdrawal arrangements for wagons is a bit of mystery. Some types were all withdrawn at the same time for example Cattle wagons when the traffic was dispensed with. Other types appear to have been called in all at once, for example all pre-Nat designs of ordinary covered merchandise vans appear to have been withdrawn about 1972 (I have not seen written evidence of this) but the BR vans persisted until the 1980s. BUT the main method was to allocate a maximum repair sum which could be expended on a type. These varied from zero - withdraw if run a hot box for example - through to large amounts of money could be spent (so for example there was a shortage of bogie bolsters in the late 1960s and very old wagons were extensively refurbished). This meant that some very new Wagons - such as BR vans - were being scrapped by the mid 1960s. The LNER brake vans were a BR standard design and therefore if they did not cost too much to repair then they went on. I am only talking of withdrawal from revenue stock. Brake vans were needed by the engineers who had no vans specially built for them - so the engineers had to claim and repair brake vans otherwise condemned. All of the pre Nat companies brake vans lasted a long time - for example some of the SR bogie vans remain in use.
|
|
| |
LNER Brake vans; GER, NER |
|
|
|---|
| I did some restoration on this van at Grosmont in 2002 and came to the conclusion that the underframe was original but the body had been extensively re-built. Steelwork in the body was embossed JARROW suggesting it might have been rolled after 1938, so the rebuild was probably an Ashington Coal Co. or N.C.B. job.
Now preserved on the Tanfield Railway. |
|
| |
LNER Brake vans; GER, NER |
| [#8796202] |
2009-01-01 10:37:45 |
Left by Peter Tatlow (#1241486) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I would question the build date of 1936. My records suggest 1946. |
|
| |
LNER Brake vans; GER, NER |
|
|
|---|
| Bob Hutchinson and I restored this van between 1970 and 1972 at Port Clarence on Teesside. Two of this type survived in a chemical works there so we combined parts of them together. In the rush to complete the project in December 1972 I inadvertently painted on the incorrect number 44824 instead of 44842! So all these years later you have found me out.
Bob was an expert joiner so did most of the woodwork. He became terminally ill last year but was able to see the van at Beamish some 30 years after having worked on it, before he passed away.
|
|
| |
LNER Brake vans; GER, NER |
| [#8796201] |
2009-01-01 10:30:37 |
Left by Peter Tatlow (#1241486) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| If this van has a small truss to the underframe, it is to diagram 158. Interestingly it does not have the concrete weight slab at each end usual of most later vans to this diagram. |
|
| |
BR Seacow - Stingray ballast hopper |
|
|
|---|
| I think this is a very good photo. It shows the livery as it was when new, not so much detail of the labels but there is enough to get an understnading of these wagons when new. Thanks. |
|
|
|---|
| A few of these hoppers which were repainted on the Southern Region in the early 1980's had the top stripe painted white instead of yellow. This was due to the wagon shop concerned ordering the wrong paint shade, due to a typing error on the Munsell colour coding reference (international paint classification). I worked for BR at the time and spotted this error on a hopper at Three Bridges PAD. I commented to a colleague and friend of mine (who was the engineers wagon manager) as to the strange choice of white paint on a wagon and he was not best pleased! The wagons concerned had to be repainted in yellow. Good subject for an unusual model ?? |
|
| |
GWR passenger brakes and other NPCCS |
|
|
|---|
| Paul
A fascinating picture. I take it the things apparently on the roof at each end belong to something else?
Best wishes
John |
|
| |
BR Shark ballast plough brake van |
|
|
|---|
| Do you have anymore pics or any info on this shark van as we are now the owners and going to restore it soon. We picked it up from the former riccarton junction and its now in Lincolnshire |
|
| |
BR Shark ballast plough brake van |
| [#8740609] |
2008-05-12 00:01:33 |
Left by Philip Holman (#1116596) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Hi Paul,
Ref to ZUB Shark DB993826...
The B&W photos on your Fotopic - Were they done from Colour shots - If so I'm after copies of them!
Thanks
Phil H |
| [#8740758] |
2008-05-12 21:21:16 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| All photographs on the site are in their original colour form. Some of the early black and white are transparency but all of these later ones are conventional print film.
Paul |
|
| |
LNER & BR E Coaching stock |
|
|
|---|
| It would seem to be a compo. Thanks for the photo, though - invaluable for modelling. |
|
| |
LNER & BR E Coaching stock |
|
|
|---|
| Every FO that I know of was built as a DINING car (no cooking facilities) and ran attached to either a RESTAURANT or KITCHEN car.
For public consumption the LNER branded all three types of vehicle externally as can be seen here, although the 3rd class dining cars which received the branding (on the GE Section) later had it removed. |
|
| |
LNER & BR E Coaching stock |
| [#8480423] |
2006-02-04 17:20:51 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| In his book 'LNER Carriages' Michael Harris mentions some conversions being done in 1954 from ambulance vehicles - but these have 4 digit numbers 9209 - 17 whereas, although not all of the number is readable it is 5 digit and starts with 4 and ends with 5. If anyone knows more about this coach I would be pleased to hear - a comment can be left on the fotopic site if possible |
| [#8484334] |
2006-02-11 12:36:51 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Noel Lever wrote
It looks very like the Sheffield Stock third class dining car on page 41 of Harris's 'Gresleys coaches' book to me, though if it is it must be the other side. I suspect it is either this or the first class equivalent.
3033-5 were 1st class diners and 3036-8 second class,
There is a photograph on page 41, the bogies look identical.
Reply from Paul Bartlett
I notice that Harris talks about 3034 becoming 43034 and being converted to a cafeteria coach by BR. I am pretty convinced the last number of 'my coach' is a five and not a four, and would be easily convinced the whole number is 43035, so perhaps it was also converted to Cafeteria.
|
|
|
|---|
| E43035E
It is a Diagram GN46 built at Doncaster in 1906 as
one of three first class dining cars numbered 3033 - 3035. Subsequently
renumbered 43033-43035 Numbers 43034 & 43035 were rebuilt as cafeteria cars in 1953.
They were 65' 6" long and 9' wide
Information from 'Great Northern Railway and East Coast Joint Stock Carriages
from 1905' by Michael Harris.
|
|
| |
Iron ore wagons - PO & BR tippler & BR hopper |
|
|
|---|
| Paul, with regards to the LMS tipplers another shot of one appeared in an article on the "Vale of Belvoir's trains of iron" in the September 1994 issue of Steam World. The photographer was the same Noel Ingram and the wagon is in the bottom photo on page 29. It is in grey and I make the number out to be M622304. Up untill the one that appeared on your site this was the only photo of one (part of one admittedly) that I had come across. Once again many thanks for a wonderful selection of photos to keep the appitite wetted. Paul James. |
| [#8489571] |
2006-02-21 19:25:05 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Paul
Thanks for this, yes I see the wagon you mean and agree, although how you have made a number out I am less sure! Interestingly the photograph above it is the same one the scan was taken from - but it has been cropped too closely and removed the wagon. But, unlike MR, it does give a March 1966 date, which is helpful and is the correct period for a recent freight red finished unfitted wagon.
Paul |
|
| |
BR Vacuum brake Boplate and conversions |
|
|
|---|
| The containers on this wagon are for potash from the Cleveland Potash mine at Boulby not salt. Salt was carried in open containers owned by COBRA similar to those they used for coke. |
|
| |
BR Vacuum brake Boplate and conversions |
|
|
|---|
| On Teesside these wagons were used for a period in the early to mid 1980s to carry rock salt from the potash mine at Boulby. I've no idea if they were ever used on Teesside for the transport of coke. |
|
| |
BR 33.5T Iron Ore hopper diag 1/167 HKV ZDV Llanwern |
| [#8740195] |
2008-05-10 10:30:26 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Paul,
Perhaps it's a reflection of the relatively short distance these wagons were intended to travel originally, but I'm surprised that none seem to have been fitted with roller bearings.
The 'coal' traffic that these wagons were eventually used on was pit waste to a tip site a few miles from the colliery, the space at the original site having been exhausted. |
|
| |
Gulf Oil 4 wheel tank wagons |
|
|
|---|
| Hi there.
Do you know why these tankers had been damaged? Were they damaged as part of an accident, or were they damaged when grounded at Marcroft's?
I recall 37273 came off the rails near Milford Haven, could these 542xx's have been involved?
Cheers, Rhys. |
|
| |
BR Light alloy B container |
| [#8606778] |
2007-02-07 14:53:41 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I have been reliably informed that the Cracknore Hard Sailing Club exchanged this container for a modern version on 06/01/07, this one being destined for a steam lorry enthusiast who plans to mount it on a trailer behind his lorry. Hopefully we shall see it at a show in due course?
Incidently, another example of this type is preserved (although unrestored) at the Swanage Railway.
Phil |
|
| |
BR 21t hopper - UZP Electro Furnace Products Hull |
|
|
|---|
| Why were they covered, what were they carrying? |
| [#8517441] |
2006-05-11 19:07:01 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Jim I knew someone would ask that, I have no idea.
Paul |
|
|
|---|
| Just done some research; Electro Furnace Products are still going, apparently they make electrical grade magnesia (magnesium oxide) powders for use in heating elements.
They would use imported magnesite (magnesium carbonate) or magnesium chloride-rich brine, for which they would also need dolomitic limestone in the extraction process. So it's probably one of the above in the wagons. I suspect magnesite. I wonder where they imported it from...? |
|
|
|---|
| The traffic from Hull to Stafford was a form of aluminium oxide compound used by Universal Abrasives (Not entirely sure of the company title- it may have been Universal Griding Wheels). The factory was served by the remains of the old Wellington branch, which diverged on the Down side to the north of Stafford station. For some reason, the spur was electrified over at least part of it's length.
Brian |
|
|
|---|
| The hopper wagons were used to transport our finished materials, Brown Fused Alumina, to our sister company in Stafford, where it would be used to make grinding wheels and other abrasive materials. Similar wagons were also used to transport our raw materials (Bauxite) to our site from the Hull docks. We now only produce Magnesium Oxide powders as BFA production ceased in 1999. All of our transport (raw & finished goods) is now unfortunately by road only |
|
| |
LMS Fish vans |
|
|
|---|
| One of these 6-wheelers regularly plied between Toton and Bescot in the 70's - does anyone know which one it was? |
|
| |
BR China Clay - Clayhood |
| [#8789565] |
2008-12-04 16:23:10 |
Left by Brian Galbraith (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Hi there Paul,
Can you tell me what the type of buffer is called as shown on this UCV? Is it termed a selfcontained buffer??
Be grateful for this info. |
| [#8789622] |
2008-12-04 20:14:07 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Yes, this is one of the earliest of these wagons and has continued the GWR style of self-contained buffer which they often preferred. Please don't ask me why, although it was possibly because they were easier to replace. |
|
| |
LNER and constituents vans, includes Fruit, Fish |
|
|
|---|
| hi paul really good site very useful thank you for taking the time doing it and thanks for sharing your collection regards paul |
|
| |
LNER and constituents vans, includes Fruit, Fish |
|
|
|---|
| Paul,
This van looks identical (except for presumably newer axleboxes) to 167449 pictured Plate 62 on page 33 of Tatlow's 'LNER Wagons an illustrated overview). Note particularly Peter's reference to the cranked strapping pieces and the vertical plate bolted over it and the square wood ends. |
| [#8862790] |
2009-09-29 11:36:29 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| At Boness they have repainted it as 167459 (fictitious) - so presumably they were unable to identify it. |
|
| |
BR and NER Air Brake steel open merchandise |
|
|
|---|
| One of these wagons was stabled in the Power Supply sidings at Paddock Wood for many years, until it became 'collateral damage' following the fire which destroyed the adjacent Transfesa warehouse a couple of years ago.
I wonder why none of the conversions seem to have been given roller bearings at the same time, given that they were rated to run at 75 mph. Were any of the other types converted given roller bearings?
Brian |
| [#8536733] |
2006-06-29 23:33:12 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Brian you make an interesting point. No, I dont think the others done at the same time - 1972 - were given roller bearings. The vans are at http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c277422.html
The Airbrake tube in collection http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c770302.html has got rollers, but this would have been normal for these - all of the tubes should have received them in the late 1950s and early 1960s, but this was not completed. Of course the similar, later conversions of vanwides VEA http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c240684.html and pipes ODA http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/c327300.html
were all equipped with roller bearings.
What I do not know is what these open wagons were used for originally. |
|
| |
Procor curtain sided vans |
|
|
|---|
| Most, if not all, were given a heavy overhaul, resheeted and repainted (blue sheets and yellow ends) at Marcroft's Stoke a few years ago, and are now used by the Ministry of Defence. They are mainly used for internal services at depots such as Marchwood Military Port, but may be seen occasionally in main-line use. Other vehicles converted at the same time included the ex-Campbells Soup vans and some VIX and VCA.
Brian
|
|
| |
OBA - BR air braked open merchandise-steel wagon |
|
|
|---|
| As you will be aware, Plasmor run a fleet of converted OBA & VCA rail wagons. (You have photos of these!) We are currently looking for more of these type of wagons to expand our fleet. I notice you have some photos taken in 2004 of a batch of OBA's in Aberdeen. Were these part of a sale? Do you know the whereabouts of any OBA's (or similar wagons) that are redundant or maybe for sale?
Regards
Julian Slater |
| [#8665416] |
2007-07-23 18:04:46 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| EWS seem to still be sending air-braked wagons for breaking up- have you tried contacting them, or C F Booth of Rotherham who seem to do most of the scrapping? Good luck with your search- it's always encouraging, and sadly rare, to find companies interested in putting more traffic on rail.
Brian |
| [#8720674] |
2008-02-24 16:25:09 |
Left by Mr. S Daniels (#1132089) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Another batch of OBA are shortly to be stored at Healey Mills and Ellesmere Port. Might be worth giving the disposals team at EWS a call if your still interested. |
|
| |
OBA rebuilds - OTA, OEA, ZCA, RRA |
|
|
|---|
| An interesting conversion about which I knew nothing ; I wonder where it was in 1992 when I was doing my final wagon photography rounds and trying to locate all the interesting air-braked 'one-offs'. Anyone know what it looked like as OTA [Design Code OT 001A] |
| [#8733560] |
2008-04-12 23:54:28 |
Left by Mr. S Daniels (#1132089) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I believe it was used in wood pulp traffic to Corpach for a while. HTH |
|
| |
Danzas bogie van, Shildon built, BR registered |
|
|
|---|
| This small class of wagons never seemed to travel as widely as their Cargowaggon/VTG equivalents. By the mid 1990s, most of the thirty were in store at Steamtown Carnforth, before being cut up a couple of years ago. At least one wagon remains, painted in a bright red livery, for use as a support vehicle for Jarvis's track machines- it was at Reading for some time.
Brian |
| [#8568353] |
2006-10-05 19:53:56 |
Left by Mr. S Daniels (#1132089) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The remainder were taken to Thompsons of Stockton a couple of years ago for scrapping. |
|
| |
Yorkshire Tar Distillers tanks |
|
|
|---|
| I worked at YTD in the late 60s. I remember these well. |
|
| |
ARC bogie box opens - PTA, JUA, JRA, PXA |
|
|
|---|
| I am currently modeling these wagons and needed an image of the stone these would carry, this is the only one i could find.
Thanks a lot. |
|
| |
ARC bogie box opens - PTA, JUA, JRA, PXA |
|
|
|---|
| Do you have any colour photographs of these wagons in there origional livery circia around 1975 as used for consett steel works |
|
| |
BR SPA - Air brake Plate wagon |
| [#8570878] |
2006-10-14 20:52:27 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The wagons used in the Pig Iron pool had the insides of the sides lined with angled wooden boards to protect the doors when the pig-iron was dropped into the wagon. One destination for them was Pensnett in the West Midlands.
Brian |
|
| |
BR Containers - mixed - 1st era |
| [#8575515] |
2006-10-28 18:41:19 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I look forward to seeing further photos. The crane's a fascinating bit of kit as well- if I'm not mistaken it's of a design built at the end of the Thirties for the LMS, which the Ministry of War Transport subsequently ordered as a standard design to give mobile cranage for transhipping materials in areas where previously only small hand cranes had been provided. I seem to recollect a drawing in MRC many years ago.
Brian |
| [#8606307] |
2007-02-06 09:57:06 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Paul,
Further to my previous posting, I have found the article and drawing in the May 1983 MRC. 31 of these 6t cranes were supplied to the LMS during WW2, intended to give a 'rapid-response' cranage capability. 'Rapid' was obviously relative, as the top speed was 20 mph. Their contribution to the war effort was marked by two of them participating in the Victory Parade in June 1946.
Brian |
| [#8606428] |
2007-02-06 19:30:19 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Brian Thanks. That edition of MRC has the second of the Datafile series we did, with two of my colour photos of brake vans in it. Paul |
|
| |
BR Dropside open merchandise, Diag 1/033 & converts |
|
|
|---|
| Sorry I didn't comment on your request for anything I have on these. Basic answer is, I don't. The conversion records, if they ever existed, were long gone when I started going to the R. S. L. I knew of B477060 but not the former W. R. example. It is, of course, a post-1948 built wagon. The only out-of-the ordinary view I have is of DB457002, a five-plank dropside with original three-plank number. In total, I have 14 views of these. |
|
| |
BR Open merchandise Plank end 1/032, 1/045, 1/042 |
|
|
|---|
| Does anyone know when the "green triangle" (signifying ex. traffic vehicles transfered to engineers department) first came into use? |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
Re green triangles on depatmental wagons.
I can remember seeing wagons at Newhaven Harbour station and Beach Sidings in 1974/5. Some wagons had the triangle - most did not. These wagons were mostly Grampus with a few Lampreys and other drop-side vehicles.
I have a hazy memory of some ex-revenue wagons still in bauite livery with these markings.
The application of the triangles may have been as and when a wagon was repaired or repainted.
Unless anyone knows better, I would hazard a guess of 1970 for the introduction the green triangle.
regards,
Colin Parks |
| [#8720407] |
2008-02-23 13:39:50 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| There were many of these engineers area markings, extensively discussed on RMWeb, but no conclusion on when they were introduced. |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
Just a postscript on the green triangle debate!
I don't think it would be correct to say that this marking denoted an ex-revenue wagon. Your web-site has various examples of wagons that were departmental vehicles from new - see Lampreys 991014 and 991223 plus at least one Tunny.
|
|
| |
BR open merchandise converts to 3 plank |
| [#8593809] |
2007-01-01 14:08:50 |
Left by brian h williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I like the gangplank and 'ETS' cable- presumably this wagon was in a formation that included a concrete mixer.
Brian |
| [#8593811] |
2007-01-01 14:29:10 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Yes it was. LDB905080, ex Lowmac WV, had a small concrete mixer and was also working with LDB477799. |
|
| |
BR open merchandise as coil KYV |
|
|
|---|
| Another set of awesome pictures !
You don't by any chance have any pictures of what the wooden frame looked like ?
cheers! |
|
| |
LMS NPCS - parcels, CCT, etc. |
| [#8683775] |
2007-09-24 14:02:07 |
Left by Natalie Jones (#1003781) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Hi Paul,
The pic of M31253M (Diag 2007 LMS B) that you have placed as 'Midlands' is actually at Leicester London Road station in the parcel dock alongside the platform on the down side. I think this was also referred to as Fox Street. Hope that helps. Do you have anymore of the Stanier BGs that managed to get blue/grey livery or indeed the Tartan Arrow scheme? Keep up the interesting photos!
Natalie |
|
| |
LMS NPCS - parcels, CCT, etc. |
|
|
|---|
| W37244 - The grounded body is now in a roadside compound in Orwell, A603, Cambridgeshire. The doors on one body side have been replaced with steel. Its paintwork is still in fair condition with the lettering on the body and solebar all readable. A tree growing outwards from under the bufferbeam show that it has been there for several years. Excellent to find it here in your collection! |
|
| |
Esso 4-wheel unfit tank wagons |
|
|
|---|
| An interesting modelling project for a yard cameo somewhere... |
| [#8784489] |
2008-11-10 19:55:02 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| What would complete the scene would be the fox which walked past when Peter and me were on the top, measuring the hatches. Even better models of me and Peter! |
|
| |
SR/BR bogie NPCS - B and GUV |
| [#8592012] |
2006-12-26 09:30:49 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I had to look at this photo for a few minutes before I was able to decide the vehicle was 'blue'. Why were the ex-SR vans so filthy in comparison with their equivalents from the other companies? Even when recently repainted, they seemed to accrue dirt at twice the rate of other vehicles.
Brian |
| [#8592036] |
2006-12-26 13:10:30 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I agree, it seemed very rare to see a clean SR van of any type (although see http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p510692.html for a reasonably clean green one!). Brought up at Staines I remember them filthy - and one of my earliest 'modelling' attempts was to turn a red Tri-ang version of the passenger van almost black with washes. |
|
| |
SR/BR bogie NPCS - B and GUV |
|
|
|---|
| Hi Paul,
Thank you for providing these photo's. They have been a great help in buildind several Southern bogie and four wheeled parcel vans in gauge one.
Many thanks,
Mark Cannon. |
|
| |
BR air braked Bogie bolster D, lever brake BDA, BEA, BFA, BMA, BTA, YAA, YVA, |
| [#8637486] |
2007-04-30 21:42:52 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Paul,
How many were fitted with this type of bogie, which appears to be a cast Y25 but with the depressed centre found on the Y33? Outreau itself is the steel plant on the harbour at Boulogne, BTW.
regards
Brian |
| [#8637499] |
2007-04-30 22:04:50 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Not very many, 950564, 565, 566 and 568 are all included in this collection. I have not seen a full carkind for these wagons. Notice also wagons around this period are fitted with ANF bogies instead of the British produced ones. |
|
| |
BR Rectanks and Conflat C |
| [#8645945] |
2007-05-24 19:30:17 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| There is an excellent photo of two of these being shunted at Newark in 1974 at
http://philtpics.fotopic.net/p37416667.html |
|
| |
Warwell bogie bolsters |
|
|
|---|
| Paul,
Were these ones of WW1 vintage? I thought they'd been built mid-WW2 to carry the proposed Sherman replacement, in the way that the Germans built six-axle flats for the Tiger and its derivatives. They still kept the safety chains and the MoD 'On loan to..' plates when I remember them.
Some of these ended their days carrying ingot moulds from the BSC foundry at Landore, where they lasted until the closure of the plant at the end of the 1970s. From my time at the plant, I recollect that they were used on the heaviest moulds, destined for Ravenscraig. Road transport had been tried for these, but the trailer grounded on the bridge over the canal.
Others were used to carry equalising beams in conjunction with the movement of large loads on Weltrols |
|
| |
Warwell bogie bolsters |
| [#8783701] |
2008-11-07 13:14:47 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| M360332 is now preserved on the GCR |
|
| |
Nuclear flask railway wagons |
| [#8646252] |
2007-05-25 20:54:08 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| There were three, broadly similar batches of wagons built at about this time, in France, Germany and the UK for Nuclear transport Ltd, presumably to take used fuel elements to the new THORP facility at Windscale. The three builds were similar in concept, but varied in details such as bogies, type of flask cover etc. The traffic finished when the train ferry stopped in 1995, with some of the British-registered stock remaining on the Continent- I have seen at least one under repair at Tergnier. I believe all those wagons still on the Continent are used to take material to the COGEMA facility at Cap le Hague,near Cherbourg.
NTL did a limited-edition model, primarily for those involved in the traffic, which has been available commercially.
Brian |
|
| |
BR ballast Lamprey, Crab, ZBO ZBV ZCV |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
I have returned to the sphere of model railways after a long spell in the wilderness. Let me just say that your photos have made all the difference to starting up with modelling again. Years ago there was nowhere to view such a collection as yours.
The departmental wagon shots are essential in getting the right liveries etc. I am interested in the area around Newhaven in East Sussex in the 1970's.
At that time there were many grampus and some lamprey wagons involved in landfill operations (even a 'sludge' wagon turned up there once).
One gap in your collection - BR standard banana vans. I've made do with memory and scant information elsewhere on the web. These wagons were regulars at Newhaven in the 1970's. Some even turned up on the beach sidings there.
Do you have any photos? Mine from this time are all lost forever due to frequent moves......
All the best,
Colin Parks |
| [#8703694] |
2007-12-17 23:05:42 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Dear Colin
Yes, I have a few. I will put them up at some time reasonably soon.
Paul |
|
| |
Longbridge BL internal wagons |
| [#8789374] |
2008-12-03 18:59:49 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| By elimination (see comments against No.3) this must be registration number 187443, now preserved on the GCR as "B279723". NOT a 16T mineral wagon; its history (so far as I know it - further details welcome) is as per my comments against No.3. In preservation both have been fitted with OLEO buffers (the Dowty ones seen in these photos are extant somewhere but unservicable). |
| [#8800728] |
2009-01-20 10:55:29 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Sorry, typos in previous comment, I meant to say 'see comments against No.2' and history 'as per my comments against No.2'; the rest makes sense! |
|
|
|---|
| HI:-) Just a few words to say that this site and its content is quite simply utterly excellent:-) Thank you very much for sharing your passion for wagons:-) It's nice to know one is not alone:-) |
|
| |
Longbridge BL internal wagons |
| [#8800733] |
2009-01-20 11:06:50 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The only 1975 Derby rebodied wagon at Rover (and now preserved on the GCR, currently carrying "B279714") was B595478. This is the same wagon which you photographed in ex-works condition in 1975 - see http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p14663365.html |
| [#8800734] |
2009-01-20 11:12:40 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Interesting that the axleboxes and buffers have changed compared to the 1975 photo... this might cast doubt on my assertion that it's the same wagon, but in fact matches its current appearance in preservation, and the number is clearly stamped on the underframe! |
|
| |
Longbridge BL internal wagons |
| [#8789369] |
2008-12-03 18:41:02 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Pretty certain that this is the vehicle now preserved on the GCR as "B279722"; this is based on certain detail differences on the running gear (which I can't see on this photo but I've eliminated all of the others). According to my notes this is plated with its Standard Wagon BRB registration number "790" (registered 1970). It is from a fleet hired to ICI Winnington for Soda Ash traffic and has the doors welded up and an inner skin fitted. I have not been able to positively identify this vehicle; any help based on its registration number would be appreciated. |
|
| |
Longbridge BL internal wagons |
|
|
|---|
| This wagon is now owned by the Stratford & Broadway Railway Preservation Society. They would like to know which lot/diagramh the wagon came from so they can give it an appropriate number in te correct range. |
|
| |
Longbridge BL internal wagons |
| [#8789365] |
2008-12-03 18:26:53 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This wagon has the 'double' handbrake as evidenced from the twin V-hangers. From this and the spindle buffers I believe this is the wagon now preserved on the GCR as "B279720". This was built with bottom doors and so is to diagram 1/104 or (more likely, I think) 1/106. If it's 1/106 it is Derby built and from lot 2104 (B64000-65499) or 2184 (B67600-68099). It was modified for ICI Soda Ash traffic with doors welded closed & inner skin fitted, probably about 1969/70; these were hired from Standard which explains the plate mentioned. If anyone can pin its identity down further based on the above, I'd be grateful! |
|
| |
Longbridge BL internal wagons |
| [#8789373] |
2008-12-03 18:56:43 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| It's hard to tell Nos. 2 & 3 apart, however from the type of axleboxes I believe this is the wagon now preserved on the GCR as "B279724". Its BR(M) registration number is 187439 (stamped on underframe) and I'm told this is from a batch of wagons hired by Standard to Imperial Smelting between about 1964 and about 1974. It is definitely NOT a 16T mineral wagon... it has heavy duty springs, bigger journals... I believe some (most?) vehicles in the series were modified 27T iron ore tipplers; can anyone shed any further light on this? As can be seen it is fitted with an inner skin; the theory on this is that it later found its way into the fleet hired to ICI for Soda Ash traffic; certainly it is known that some ex-Tipplers were modified for this traffic in 1975. More details (any a link to its original number) would be appreciated. |
|
| |
Bogie Presflo dry powder cement APCM & LS |
|
|
|---|
| Yes, in the 70's a ruck of these fabulous wagons with a 'Peak' on the front rolled through Walsall as 6M36 every weekday afternoon! |
|
| |
LMS & pre-group covered goods vans |
| [#8741458] |
2008-05-16 13:01:48 |
Left by Richard Billinge (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Location was actually DUFFIELD. |
|
| |
LMS & pre-group covered goods vans |
| [#8741455] |
2008-05-16 12:55:02 |
Left by Richard Billinge (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The site of this van body is incorrect. It was actually at DUFFIELD. The adjacent photo of "MR van bodies and loading bank is also at Duffield.
Regards
Richard Billinge |
|
| |
LMS Bogie bolster C, D, Borail, Salmon |
|
|
|---|
| Thanks Paul
I can now finish off the Cambrian kit.
Peter |
|
| |
4-wheel bolsters for Long Welded rail |
| [#8676308] |
2007-08-29 14:58:29 |
Left by Richard Oldfield (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| A brilliant image from which we can now complete our end wagon for the CWR train on Mostyn.
The positioning of the tail-lamp is interesting to say the least.
Cheers,
Richard |
|
| |
4-wheel bolsters for Long Welded rail |
| [#8676338] |
2007-08-29 15:58:28 |
Left by Richard Oldfield (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| A brilliant shot.
Yet more detail variations - only some of which are modellable!!
Cheers,
Richard |
|
| |
4-wheel bolsters for Long Welded rail |
| [#8676309] |
2007-08-29 15:02:17 |
Left by Richard Oldfield (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Good shot of the 'rail delivery channel' and supporting fillets.
Cheers,
Richard
|
|
| |
4-wheel bolsters for Long Welded rail |
| [#8676317] |
2007-08-29 15:15:05 |
Left by Richard Oldfield (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| A couple of questions which perhaps someone can answer-
1. What is the purpose of the sides?
2. What does the framework on the end do?
Cheers,
Richard |
|
| |
4-wheel bolsters for Long Welded rail |
| [#8676331] |
2007-08-29 15:39:29 |
Left by Richard Oldfield (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| What is the function of the light grey box on the end framework?
Cheers,
Richard |
| [#8676401] |
2007-08-29 19:08:53 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| What is the function of the shoot going down to the rails at this end?
|
|
| |
4-wheel bolsters for Long Welded rail |
| [#8676324] |
2007-08-29 15:25:53 |
Left by Richard Oldfield (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This is the first image I've seen in this section (so far) where the rollers have been moved inwards within the 'tray' they sit in.
Cheers,
Richard |
|
| |
BR Turbot YCV Ballast open |
|
|
|---|
| Paul - I have been looking at your Turbot pictures again. (Especially because I've just started painting my gauge 1 model). Now and again the site said I had voted when I hadn't done so. But what a useful (to me) collection of pictures. Thank you very much for showing them to the world!
regards, Dick Comber |
|
| |
On track plant, large cranes etc. upto 1980 |
|
|
|---|
| I like this picture as I am trying to make one for my crane. However, there isn't a picture of the coach next to it could you please supply one. Thank you very much. Guy |
| [#8779888] |
2008-10-23 12:34:07 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Guy
I do not have a photograph of the BTU alongside. I recorded it as DB975465 and that I did not photograph it - presumably too blocked in. You will find more recent photographs at
http://www.departmentals.com/photo/975465a |
|
| |
BR 21ton rebuilt mineral wagons - 2 door B315xxx MDO |
| [#8698214] |
2007-11-22 12:11:39 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Do my eyes deceive me, or is the top rim on these wagons thinner than that on other welded 21 tonners?
Brian |
| [#8698287] |
2007-11-22 19:24:18 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Definately, shows well on this view - the one before this photo.
http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p46457208.html |
|
| |
Italian FS 4-wheel 'ferry' vans |
| [#8698752] |
2007-11-25 11:09:12 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| The planked and ply-bodied wagons seem to have been built at the same time, though the former never seemed to be as numerous in later years. They lasted on the 'Whirlpool' white-goods traffic to the former Transfesa warehouse at Paddock Wood for a couple of years after the Channel Tunnel opened, before being replaced by FS, VTG and Cargowaggon bogie vans. I believe they also found employment on car-windscreen traffic to Birmingham during the same period.
The white stripe on the ply wagons indicated suitability for perishables traffic- in latter years, it was painted out, but was still evident. The planked vehicles don't seem to have carried it, and also seemed to have less ventilators, so perhaps they weren't intended for the perishable side of things.
Regards
Brian |
|
| |
CEGB 21ton coal tipplers |
| [#8705271] |
2007-12-24 14:26:01 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| They lasted until the closure of Meaford power station (near Stone), which would have been at the beginnings of the 1980s. They ran from various of the North Staffs pits, though latterly they tended to work from Florence.
I have seen photos of them taken in earlier times at the original Ironbridge power station.
Brian |
|
|
|---|
| Meaford B Power Station at Stone closed on 1/10/91 though last generation took place on 28/9/90. Last coal trains were in the mid 1980's with latterly very many large coal lorries delivering coal.
One wagon (no 23) has been preserved and is at the Foxfield Eailway nr Stoke on trent |
|
| |
BR Banana vans and barriers |
|
|
|---|
| Paul,
There were also two different styles of steel ends - compare this one with the earlier-numbered vehicles which have an extra corrugation at the top in the centre. |
|
| |
BR Banana vans and barriers |
|
|
|---|
| The examples pictured at Stoke were used on the sand trains from Oakamoor to St Helens- some as brake force wagons at the head, others just before the van to stop the guard getting sand in his eyes as it belted along at 35 mph...
Others, along with their SR-built predecessors, were to be found as 'fitted heads' on coal trains on some South Wales branches- notably in the Pantyffynnon and Llantrisant areas- the latter may explain the grounded body at Cwm.
Brian |
| [#8706379] |
2007-12-30 16:46:00 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Thanks Brian. The grounded van at Cwm does not appear to be a SR type. One of the SR banana van Tadpoles used as fitted heads on the Welsh coal trains is at http://gallery6801.fotopic.net/p26993621.html
Paul
|
|
| |
Tiphook container flat PFA KFA TIPH93xxx |
|
|
|---|
| http://www.dave421.fotopic.net/p51185423.html
hello i like your pics do you have many train fans in finland ?? |
| [#8750859] |
2008-06-21 12:57:03 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Thank you for your kind remarks. Unfortunately it is difficult to know how many visitors the site gets from other countries - but there are quite a number.
Unfortunately my only visit to Finland was in deep winter and to Kusamo, so no wagons! |
|
| |
LNER 21ton steel hopper wagons HTO |
| [#8728308] |
2008-03-25 16:02:23 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Paul,
Following some discussion on a French wagon forum, it would appear that these underframes had been intended for covered vans to the French design OCEM 29 (OCEM played a similar role to the RCH in the UK, at least with regard to standardisation) for use by the British Expeditionary Force. With the collapse of France, those vehicles with bodywork already built were sent to the British forces in Egypt, whilst the remaining chassis were used for hoppers.
Brian |
|
| |
BR (GWR) Carfit A |
|
|
|---|
| These are good photos as Hornby make a car flat but I have not been able to find a picture of them and thought they were a made up model. Cheers for that. |
|
| |
LNER & BR E Coaching stock |
| [#8725907] |
2008-03-15 22:33:53 |
Left by Roger Bailey (#1016349) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Great selection of interesting coaches, do you have any details for the gas tank wagon? |
| [#8725910] |
2008-03-15 22:44:51 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| No, I know no details of these photographs. |
|
| |
LNER & BR E Coaching stock |
|
|
|---|
| Lots of broken windows... looks like today's era of vandalism may not be as recent or new as we sometimes think.. ! |
|
| |
LNER & BR E Coaching stock |
|
|
|---|
| I would say this is ex GNR rather than GER the roof style is GNR very few GER coaches had this shape roof, most were low arc and later ones normal semi circle |
|
|
|---|
| I would say this is ex GNR rather than GER the roof style is GNR very few GER coaches had this shape roof, most were low arc and later ones normal semi circle |
|
| |
Brett ELC Aggregate bogie hoppers PHA JHA |
|
|
|---|
| These wagons operate daily through Clapham Junction Platform 15 from Cliffe to either Purley or Tolworth ;around lunchtime and sometimes not the Brett hoppers but invariably a stone train of some sort. Can be photographed as they pass slowly into the platform ; Platform 14 would be the best for observing them |
|
| |
PARROT WW2 air ministry case wagon, cable wagon |
|
|
|---|
| Dear Paul,
I particularly like your two photos of Thommo, he is a beautiful parrot ( as are the wagons ! ).Your posting did not indicate what species Thommo is.
You may not be aware that the Australian Budgerigar is native to Central and Western Australia in the Arid regions ( not desert, it recieves too much water ), and they are naturally green and gold, the other colours are mutations that have been multiplied by selective breading.
By the way I enjoy your wagon photos, they are a well known and well used resource by BR modellers.
Best wishes,
Regards,
PGM |
|
|
|---|
| Wonderful!!!! What guage track does he run on????? |
|
| |
BR 16t Mineral rivetted diag 1/109 unfitted |
| [#8762937] |
2008-08-08 17:48:16 |
Left by Brian H Williams (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I wonder what 'FREN' meant?
The bits of sacking, and more usually straw, were a feature of the 16t and 21t tonners used to carry anthracite duff from and around the various sites in the Gwendraeth valley- the idea was to stop too much of the very fine (and usually very wet) coal leaking from gaps around the doors and the bottom of the sides. Glad to see the 16 tonners being tackled at last, Paul- good luck to you when you get on to the 1/108s.
Brian |
|
| |
BR/SNCF 16T Mineral MoS cupboard door |
|
|
|---|
| Limited experience of wagon braking systems, the angle of this photograph solved my problem of hangers and levers etc. straight off. |
|
| |
LNER wagons - a selection on BR pre 1975 |
|
|
|---|
| This is a fascinating survivor and is now identified as Noth British Railway origin. The North British Railway Study Group are planning an article for the journal so can they get permission to put in print please. Sorry a "virgin" on such matters so not quite 100% on what needs to be done etc. Ideally both the recent photos would be nice for the article please |
|
| |
BR Conflat L and L containers FLV ZVV ZSW |
|
|
|---|
| It is great to be able to match the ral thing to the model. I have one of these on my Hornby layout with the Hornby Industrial set. Beautiful rugged image - perfect. |
|
| |
LNER bogie parcels - BG GUV |
|
|
|---|
| Photo of 'LNER Thompson full brake' at Normanton is a Gresley steel-sided vehicle? Thompson's designs did not have sloped roofs. |
|
| |
SMBP 20T anchor mount unfit class B tank wagon |
| [#8810802] |
2009-02-28 09:14:14 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| Now preserved at the Great Central Railway. The 'Shell Lubricating Oils' livery was yellow with red writing - hopefully it will be restored to this livery eventually. There is also evidence on the tank sides of it having carried the more usual black and white livery. |
|
| |
SMBP 20T anchor mount unfit class B tank wagon |
| [#8810799] |
2009-02-28 09:04:51 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| SMBP number A6071. Now preserved at Great Central. |
|
| |
SMBP 20T anchor mount unfit class B tank wagon |
| [#8810800] |
2009-02-28 09:05:59 |
Left by Phil Hetherington (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| SMBP number A6071. Now preserved at Great Central. |
|
| |
Sheerness Steel scrap carriers POA, PXA |
| [#8840349] |
2009-06-28 12:16:20 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| I had never seen an image of one of these wagons in as built condition without the deflector plate. It all makes sense now.
|
|
| |
Sheerness Steel scrap carriers POA, PXA |
| [#8840352] |
2009-06-28 12:20:48 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| As for the the braking changeover switch they were built without them and the deflector plates
Switch no plate
|
|
| |
Sheerness Steel scrap carriers POA, PXA |
| [#8840351] |
2009-06-28 12:19:13 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| As for the the braking changeover switch they were built without them and the deflector plates
No Switch no plate
|
|
| |
Sheerness Steel scrap carriers POA, PXA |
| [#8840353] |
2009-06-28 12:22:12 |
Left by Paul Bartlett (#1003129) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| As for the the braking changeover switch they were built without them and the deflector plates. Switch plus plate
|
|
| |
GWR Vans - includes specialist designs |
| [#8867344] |
2009-10-17 23:51:05 |
Left by alistair d cahill (#0) |
Reply |
|
|---|
| This van is very similar to the type built by the GER up to LNER days. i would not be surprised this has theHolden touch as he left the GWR and joined the GER
Regards Alistair D Cahill |
|
| |
GWR Vans - includes specialist designs |
|
|
|---|
| Note the wheelsets on this van! |
|
| |
LNER Special wagons - Lowmacs ZVV ZXW RRV Conflat ISO |
|
|
|---|
| The vehicle on the Lowmac is a HMLC Stalwart Mk2
(high mobility load carrier) The Stalwart was able to swim across rivers etc, the water jet ports, you can just see on the left side under the rear lights, (also on the right) |
|
| |